To do or not to do workshops in physiotherapy?


 

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To do or not to do workshops in physiotherapy? I have been asked this question by many students and physiotherapists. Answer is yes, you need to do the workshops. It helps in developing  your therapeutic skills.

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Workshops enhance the development of physiotherapy as a profession and producing  more and more skillful therapists.

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But my strong belief is that, workshop are meant for teaching and training skills of assessment and treatment not just sharing information. Now a days there are multiple workshop  happening throughout the year. Every month at least minimum two to three workshop are happening throughout India. There are two perspective about it, both good and bad.

What is good about it?

It is good that so many workshop are being conducted by experts in their field. It is good opportunity for budding therapists to learn the specialised skill training from experts throughout the world. During my graduation there were very few workshops being conducted so we had less exposure. The only source of information and skill training were our teachers in college.

But now many things have changed. You can get a lot of information from other experts outside your college.

What is bad about it?

Day by day workshops are becoming more commercialised instead of a method of training budding therapists. Due to this commercialisation, workshops are getting bad name & fame. There are too many workshops conducted throughout the year. So students  are getting confused and misguided which workshops to do. Also since there are workshops available in almost all major topics of the syllabus, students are not concentrating or giving importance to college training. They are more inclined to attend workshops.

Earlier we used to attend workshops to learn and improve our therapeutic skills. But now it is observed that some people are attending  workshops just because they want to conduct workshops on their own. Everyone want to be a resource person for workshop. Conducting workshops is slowly becoming a business. It is commonly been observed that candidates who completed some specialized workshop start conducting workshop in their respective regions or institute. In a way it is good that people are spreading knowledge they gained through the training in the workshop. But, if they conduct workshop without practice and improving their own handling and therapeutic skills, it will be just transfer of information and not the therapeutic skills per say.

It is my personal opinion that Candidates should first practice the training and skill they learned. Refine and improve their skills and then teach. This will only make sense if there is training skills transfer through their own experience instead of sharing information they acquired from someone else .

I have no intention to hurt anyone or criticize present work and practices. I am just sharing my own thoughts on this sensitive topic.

 

Which workshop to do ?

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Students/therapist  need to be more selective & cautious during selecting the workshops they are doing. They should note the following points while they select the workshop.

A. Course instructor :

  1. Check the credibility and experience in the field they are going to train in the workshop.
  2. Are they certified in specialized skill training?
  3. Are they certified instructor in the respective field? if not at least they should be trained and experienced enough in the specialty.
  4. Oration skills
  5. Practical training skills
  6. Evidence based practice

B. Certification

  1. Who is giving the certificate: Specialized institute, academic institute, specialized clinic, Individual certificate.   Specialized institute, academic institute will have higher credibility
  2. What is the credibility of the certificate?
  3. Does the institute who is giving the certificate  registered with any government body/ society/ trust?

C. Cost of the workshop

  1. What is the cost of the workshop? Can you afford it?
  2. Is it worth to pay for the provided training?
  3. What is all included in the cost of the workshop? Tuition fees, Certificate, Breakfast and lunch, accommodation, stationery material etc.

D. Course duration

  1. This is one critical point. most of the students prefer 2 days workshops, specially Saturday Sunday workshop. But we need to ask ourselves, is  two days of  training sufficient to learn the skill training? do you need to spend more days in training and practical hands on.

E. Hands on training

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  1. Workshops means skill training. Skill training means hands on training.
  2. Most of the workshop advertise it as a hands on workshop but it may or may not be a hands on workshop.
  3. How to find out if it is proper hands on or skill training workshop.?  for that you will need to find out following things. a. Check there program schedule. Try to find out how many hours of lab training is mentioned in the schedule how many hours of theory or didactic training is mentioned. b. Check the patient to students ratio in the workshop. Best ratio is 2 therapists : 1 patient. Even  4-5 therapists : 1 patient is acceptable. c. content of lecture/training. Based on topic you can understand if it is practical training or theory d. On an average 70-80% of lab/practical  training is good workshop

F. Interest

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  1. What is your interest? just do the workshops which you are more interested such as Musculoskeletal / neuro/cardio etc.
  2.  Do not try to do all types of workshops and just collect certificates.

G. U G students

  1. Do not hurry/run to do the workshops. Workshop is meant only for those who have background of the literature/ theory and little bit practical knowledge. In workshop you will specialized handling skills. So U G students attending workshop without prior knowledge is not beneficial.

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I am highly pro for doing  workshops. During my post graduation and after being a teacher also i am continuously attending workshop to improve my knowledge and therapeutic skill. Sometime workshop are too expensive and lengthy. I suggest don’t think of the cost of the workshop. if you are interested and you want to learn it go for it.

” Investing in education always pays you best interest !”

Because i have attended multiple workshop in neuro rehabilitation, my neuro therapeutic skills, teaching skills and planning problem solving skills are improved. Money should never come in your or stop your education. Even today i am spending lakhs of Rupees on attending workshops. Sometime i had to take loan to do the workshops. But i never compromised and not missed a good workshop/ Course.

 

PROFESSIONAL WORKSHOPS ATTENDED.

Neuro  Rehab workshop

  1. Workshop on NDT theoretical framework & clinical applications. Dr. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor, Dr. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor. 40 Hrs. March-April 2005
  2. Workshop on Motor Control Problems.Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor Dr. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor 40 Hrs June –July 2005
  3. Workshop on Rehabilitation of Adult Hemiplegia, incorporating holistic approach of Bobath, Petricia Davies Affolter concept. Dr. Roshan Vania (PT) Dr. Preeti Shah (PT). C.M.F.’s College of Physiotherapy, Nigdi, Pune. 25 Hrs 15/10/05 to 17/10/05
  4. Workshop on Enhancement of upper extremity function in pediatrics. Kimberley Barthel Gail Ritchi Asia-Pacific Childhood Disability Update 2005, Mumbai. Pre Conference Workshop. 17 Hrs 30/11/05 to 01/12/05
  5. Advance Workshop Sensory Modalities in the Treatment of Childhood Disabilities. Kimberley Barthel Asia-Pacific Childhood Disability Update 2005, BOMBAY. 8 & ½ Hrs 02/12/05 to 03/12/05
  6. Practice management. Sandra Moor (PT) President of world conference of physical therapy (WCPT) 43rd Annual conference of The Indian Association of Physiotherapy, at Hydrabad. 4 Hrs 22/01/05
  7. Neurogenic dysphasia – assessment & therapeutic management. DR. Sunita Kavrie, CCC/SLP, speech path association, inc. Indian Speech & Hearing Association, Maharashtra Branch. & Ruby Hospital, Pune. 6 Hrs. 12th December 2004
  8. NDT theoretical framework & clinical applications. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor Snacheti institute college of physiotherapy, shivajinagar, pune. 32Hrs October – november2005
  9. Motor Control, theoretical framework & clinical applications. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor Bombay 48 Hrs December2005- January 2006
  10. NDT Facilitation-advanced course. Asha chitins M. Sc. PT, NDT Instructor Bombay 40hrs April -June2006
  11. Upper limb control (NDT).Monica Diamond AWP WCPT IAP 2009 Mumbai 24hours (2Days) Jan 2009
  12. NDT/Bobath certificate course in the management and treatment of adults with hemiplegia and head injury. Cathy Hazzard, B.Sc, MBA, PT,C/NDT19 January –06 February 2015. A Neuro Developmental Treatment Association Approved Course.Course ID no14A101. Sancheti Institute College of Physiotherapy, Sancheti Health Academy Thube Park 11/12 Shivajinagar, Pune, Maharashtra, India, 41105
  13. NDTA Advanced Handling and Problem Solving Course.Cathy Hazzard, B.Sc, MBA, PT, C/NDT 01-12-2015 – 01-16-2015. A Neuro Developmental Treatment Association Approved Course. Course ID no15A101. Sancheti Institute College of Physiotherapy, Sancheti Health Academy Thube Park 11/12 Shivajinagar, Pune, Maharashtra, India, 41105

Gait Analysis

  1. Three days 2D and 3D gait analysis workshop by Dr. Abhay Khote (Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon  at The Royal Children’s Hospital Australia) and Jill Rodha (Physiotherapist Australia) from Hugh Williamson Gait Analysis Laboratory gait lab team organised by Rehab department of Kokilaben Ambani hospital at 3D Gait lab of Kokilaben Ambani hospital Mumbai in 2011.
  2. Three day Basic Course in Clinical Biomechanics at MGM Centre of Human Movements Sciences, on 1st, 2nd and 3rd April 2016 .
  3. Three day Course in Clinical Biomechanics at MGM Centre of Human Movements Sciences, on 1st, 2nd and 3rd April 2016 .

 Aquatic therapy

  1. Four day workshop on Aquatic therapy in neuro rehabilitation by Dr. C. G. Prashant, Organised by Sancheti college of physiotherapy, pune April 2016.
  2. Therteen days course : 16th Post-Bachelor Aquatic Therapy Modular Course Package in Valens (Bad Ragaz), Switzerland. : Internal Aquatic Physical Therapy Faculty, Valens (CH). Kliniken Valens, CH-7317 Valens.
    1. Water Specific Therapy (WST) + halliwick therapy
    2. The Bad Ragaz Ring Method®
    3.  AquaT-Relax, passive relaxation including (spinal) joint mobilisation
    4.  Clinical Ai Chi: addressing postural control and connective tissue (e.g. neurodynamics) + http://www.clinicalaichi.org
    5.  Aquatic Fitness (AT-Fit) introduction: focus on music, measuring endurance and falls prevention

Research workshops

  1. Seven days advacne work on rsearch methodalogy for Pre Phd training.16thApril to 22nd April 2014, organised by MUHS Nashik at MUHS nashik.
  2. Workshop on Manuscript writing for publication at YASHADA Baner,  PUNE, Jan 2013
  3. Research methodology workshop by MUHS Nashik at Regional centre Medical education technology (MET) cell Pune 2012.
  4. Clinical Research & Research methodology workshop by Dr. Mohit Bhandari (Canada Research Chair in Musculoskeletal Trauma) , organised by Sancheti Hospital at Sancheti hospital 2008
  5. Research methodology workshop by Dr. Dhara Kapoor Nuero therapist USA, organised by TEAM physiotherapy centre Pune at Band garden Hotel Pune l 2010
  6. Workshop on Grant writing for Research organised MUHS Nashik at Regional centre Medical education technology (MET) cell Pune at Sancheti Hospital at Sancheti hospital 2013

Medical Education

  1. Three days Basicworkshop on Medical education technology by Maharashtra university of health sciences  MUHS Nashik at Regional center Medical education technology (MET) cell Pune 2012.
  2. Seven days advance  workshop on Medical education technology by Maharashtra university of health sciences  MUHS Nashik at Regional center Medical education technology (MET) cell Pune 2013.

Social Media and Networking 

  1. Workshop of social media and networking organised by Sancheti healthcare academy. This workshop was training of how to use social media and blog.

Dance 

  1. I am trained in Salsa dance by Rocky Poonawala dance academy   Pune

 

 

 

 

9 responses to “To do or not to do workshops in physiotherapy?

  1. Dear Gajanan,Well said and explained especially what you should ensure before attending a workshop.VK

  2. Sir it is great to have you telling us about this topic.
    It is very confusing to choose right workshop but with the guidelines given by you it will be very easy in the future.
    And yes there are black sheeps in every profession i agree with you sir

    Thank you sir for making us realize that workshops are meant for hand on training also.

    And i wanna end it with the lines you always tell me
    This is one of the most important quote for me.
    NEVER LET MONEY STOP YOU FROM LEARNING ANYTHING.

  3. its a great information.you covered valuable points.I want to share few points:
    FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND COURSES CONDUCTED RELATED TO OUR PROFESSION 1 DAY ,2,10 DAYS OR 1 MONTH ITS NOT COURSES,ITS WORKSHOPS.COURSES ARE CONDUCTED BY UNIVERSITIES ONLY.AND ONE IMPORTANT THING EVEN P.G DIPLOMA COURSES OF 1 YEAR NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ATTESTATION BY HRD,GRD.SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VALUE JUST NAME SAKE. MANY ARE TELLING THAT WHICH THAT CERTIFICATES YOU WILL GE JOBS,VISA ETC.ITS NOT TRUE .BECAUSE DURING INTERVIEW THEY WILL ASK YOU WHETHER YOU KNOW NEW ,ADVANCE TREATMENTS OR NOT.DURING DATA FLOW YOUR EDUCATION CERTIFICATES,EXPERIENCE CERTIFICATES WILL BE VERIFIED NOT YOUR WORKSHOP CERTIFICATES. NEW CONCEPTS ,TECHNIQUES HELP YOU TO GET GOOD RESULTS.YOUR SALARY INCREMENT,POSITION WILL BE BETTER DEPENDS ON EMPLOYER AND HOW YOU IMPROVES YOUR DEPARTMENT NOT WITH WORKSHOPS CERTIFICATES. MANY COURSES ,WORKSHOPS JUST ISSUING CERTIFICATE FEW ARE ISSUING TRANSCRIPT .TRANSCRIPT IS IMPORTANT.WE WILL BE SEEING ITS INTERNATIONAL.WE WILL BE SEEING NATIONAL,INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOPS OR COURSES ACCREDITED INTERNATIONALLY.IMPORTANT THING EACH AND EVERY COUNTRY,STATE HAS OWN REGISTERED HEALTH BODY LIKE APTA,SUPREME COUNCIL OF HEATH,HEALTH AUTHORITY OF ABUDUBAI. DEPEND ON AUTHORITY THE WORKSHOP BODY ACCREDITATION REQUIRED SO DURING RENEWAL OF LICENSE YOU WILL BE REQUIRING CME POINTS .SO ONLY THAT REGISTERED ACCREDITED BOARD WORKSHOPS CERTIFICATES ,CME POINTS ONLY COUNTED.

    SO WHAT IS BIG REAL DIFFERENCE .DON’T BELIEVE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOPS OR COURSES .WORKSHOPS OR COURSES ARE CONDUCTED TO IMPROVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE, UPDATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE WITH RECENT ADVANCES IN YOUR FIELD.

    • Dear Dr. Bhaskar,
      Thanks for making the point on workshop and course. I am targeting at both workshop and specialized course by specialized institute as well. Objective of this article was to stop commercialization of workshop. make people aware about it. That is why i touched this sensitive topic. I appreciate you quires and points which i could not touch in the article. Thanks again. People like you are holding our profession high.

  4. 1. ARE YOU LEARNING NEW TREATMENTS OR TECNIQUES DURING NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP, COURSES?
    ANSWER IS NO.IN YOUR U.G ,P.G COURSE ALMOST EVERY THING INCLUDED EXCEPT FEW THINGS.SO WHY YOU HAVE TO PAY MONEY LEARN TAPING,NDT,PNF,MOBILISATION,MANUAL THERAPY,HYDRO THERAPY.?
    2.SO DURING YOUR UG OR PG YOUR TEACHERS DON’T KNOW OR DON’T LIKE TO TEACH YOU.THEY ARE CONDUCTING THESE TYPE OF WORKSHOP AND COURSES AND EARNING AND EATING ON SAME PROFESSION.

    SLOUTION:

    EVERY PROBLEM THERE WILL BE SOLUTION.IF YOU WANT TO DO SOME BETTERMENT .THE INSTRUCTOR CAN ARRANGE COURSR OR WORKSHOP IN COLLEGE FOR STAFF.SO STUDENTS NEED NOT TO PAY.I AM READY ARE YOU?
    TO BECOME INSTRCUTOR:
    1. MANY PEOPLE NOW A DAYS RAISING QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS.IN INDIA THERE IS NO REGULATORY BODY SO ANY ONE BECOME INSTRUCTOR CAN CONDCUT.
    2. BUT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVING REGULATORY BODIES HAVE SOME GUIDELINES.
    3.TEACHING IS NOT A CRIME .TEACHING WITH LESS EXPIRENCE WILL HAVE DRAWBACKS.THAT THE REASON ABROAD THEY WILL LOOK FOR ATLEAST MINIMUM 2 YEARS EXPIRENCE TO WORK EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PASSED BACHELOR OR MASTER DEGRE. EVEN THAT THEY WILL HAVE LICENSE EXAM TO PRACTISE
    4. WHY SO AFRAID IF SOME ONE REALLY INTRESTED TO TEACH AS INSTRUCTOR ORTEACHER TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE.SO ACCORDING TO YOU JUNIOR SHOULD NEVER BECOME TEACHER OR INSTRCUTOR TO SHARE HIS KNOWLEDGE.IF HE IS NOT HAVE TALENT OR KNOWLEDGE NO ONE WILL GO OR ATTEND WORKSHOP.THEN WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
    5. EVERY ONE ASK FREE COURSES OR WORKSHOPS.THERE SHOULD BE FREE WHEN YOU WILL NOT CHARGE FROM PATIENTS.WHEN YOU ARE CHARING FROM PATIENTS WHY IT SHOULD BE FREE. THE INSTRUCTOR HAS TO LOOSE HIS CASES AND SPEND ONE OR 2 DAYS AND TEACH YOU.SO NO ONE WILL INTREST TO TEACH FREE.BUT FEW DEDICATED PEOPLE WILL BE THERE.
    5. REGARDING COST OF WORKSHOP, COURSE.WE WILL BE SEEING NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL WORKSHOP OR COURSES WHICH IS RANGING FROM MINIMUM 4000 RS TO EVEN 5 LAKHS.WHIC WILL BE MORE THAN MASTER DEGREE COURSE FEE.IF YOU ARE SPENDING ONE RUPEE .YOU WILL PLAN TO EARN 500 RS.SO THAT THE REASON ITS EXPENSIVE AND MANY MIDDLE CLASS STUDENTS AND PHYSIO WITH LESS SALARY NOT AFFOARD.INDIRECTELY ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE USING SAME PROFESSION PEOPLE FOR YOUR PURPOSE.
    6.EVEN IF YOU LEARN FROM ABROAD YOU CAN TEACH WITH REASOBABLE AMOUNT.YOU CAN DO THESE BY ARANGING WORKSHOP IN NOT IN 5 STAR HOTEL,AND DON’T SPENT TOO MUCH AMOUNT FOR FOOD.MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY AFTER THAT HE CAN EARN LIFE LONGWITH THIS .JUST HE HAS TO SPEND ONE TIME INVESTMENT.TRUE BUT WHY CANT WE CAN MANGE AS I MENTIONED IT SHOULD BE IN COLLEGE LEVEL FOR TEACHERS AND LECTURES .IF THEY HAVE GOOD KNOWLEDGE THERE WILL NOT BE ANY NEED TO SPEND MONEY FROM STUDENTS ATTENDING THESE TYPE OF WORKSHOPS.

    • Dear Dr. Bhaskar, thank you very much for your comments. Thanks you for taking so much time to write and detailed explanation of thoughts. I like your way of writing in capital letters. I understood your message should be bold and clear.
      I am not advocating that students should attend and spend workshops. I think many peoples and students will benefit from your comments

    • I did learn lot of knew things in specialized national and international courses. These techniques were not taught in our UG. I agree that all these thing s are in our syllabus. But changing syllabus will not changes training. Most of the teachers are not trained in these specialized techniques/methods . Now many teachers are getting trained. My urge is to all teachers to get trained in all these specialized techniques/methods, then students will not feel like going out for workshops.
      As you have mentioned about reducing cost. We are arranging most of the workshop in our college so we could reduce the cost of hotel. The total cost came down more than 50 %. Even we are doing workshop free of cost for students, and college pays for these workshops.
      As i am trained in few of these we do free workshop for our students. If most of us/teachers start doing like this the fab of attending workshop will come down.

  5. Following are the comments given by Maharashtra state academicians on our what’s up group. I just pasting the copy of the messages trail.

    [23/07 7:43 pm] Sudeep Kale: 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻good topic well written
    [23/07 7:51 pm] Apurv Shimpi: Very well written.. 👍🏼👍🏼
    [23/07 7:57 pm] Dr Pratibha Guikwad: Very nicely written👍👍
    [23/07 7:58 pm] Dr Pratibha Guikwad: I liked the matter regarding why to do workshop and how to select it.Very good Gajanan
    [23/07 8:38 pm] Vivek Kulkarni: Well said Gajanan especially what one should look in for before doing or conducting a workshop👍🏾
    [23/07 8:44 pm] Dr. Ashwini Kale: Very well said sir… especially about credibility and hands on practical time👍🏻👍🏻
    [23/07 8:46 pm] ‪Dr. Ashwini Kale‬: Credit points should have special weightage during inspections so that update of knowledge in respective fields will be more appreciated
    [23/07 9:37 pm] Dr Bharati Asgaonkar: Hi read ur blog, I m o d opinion dat d ug students shouldn’t do any workshops, dey should concentrate on what is taught by der teachers n try to implement d same on d patients , skill development can’t happen in just two days or a week which is usually d course duration, plus nowadays d trend is not to teach but to earn, in reality v few courses impart real skills, most o dem give so much information dat@ d end u r not sure what was taught its like drowning someone by d information
    Only dedicated person ll want to teach others n such r few. On d other hand d ppl seeking d course maybe many times doing d course just for collecting d certificates dey think its ok to spend few thousands instead o lacs n do d course here rather den abroad n der r others who do d workshop as d conductor is going to b d examiner so what should one say in dis circumstance? To tell u d truth when v were studying der were no manipulative skills ka fad v treated using nml passive mmts yet v got excellent results! Now Tom Dick n Harry r conducting manipulation workshop n students r attending like herds ultimately only v few o dem really manage doing good skills
    [23/07 10:25 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: @ Bharati mam. I agree with all the points. I will write about this in the blog.
    [23/07 10:26 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Thanks for taking so much time write in such a detailed way.
    [23/07 10:26 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: I am not trying to say that all students should attend workshop.
    [23/07 10:38 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: This article is meant for those who are just running behind attending any workshop. I am trying give some guidelines which workshop to attend and not.
    [23/07 10:40 pm] Navaz Pathan auranghabad: 👍👍👍
    [24/07 6:19 am] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: @Gajanan… U have raised a Very important point . Nicely written too. But at the same time we need to introspect our education system why students are mad behind attending that’s workshops.
    [24/07 6:22 am] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: @Apurva…. Thanks for sharing the info. Really outstanding work.
    [24/07 10:15 am] Veena Krishnanand: Thanks, Suvarna, for raising valid point.
    Not only shd we introspect educational system, but also quality of teaching& developing clinical structure & marterial! Today, our students do not get adequate time to be in clinical area, plus there is dearth of patients in various specialities.
    Clinical exposure, if adequate, will definitely reduce the need for attending workshops.
    [24/07 10:53 am] Rajashri Naik Sion: Very valid points raised by Suvarna and Veena madam. In addition it may also be peer pressure….the fear that if all others are doing a certain workshop,will i be lagging behind if i don’t do it ? Again it brings us to the same issue of students having confidence in the education system and in their own educational set ups !!!
    [24/07 10:59 am] Vivek Kulkarni: Absolutely veena
    [24/07 11:00 am] Jui Madam: Absolutely right Rajshree mam. It is the peer pressure and herd mentality for doing a certain course. The question is also will the students ever have faith in the education system when some of us may promote this culture
    [24/07 11:00 am] Veena Krishnanand: Thanks, Rajashree n Vivek
    [24/07 11:31 am] Dr Mariya: Nicely written Dr Gajanan and absolutely valid points by all our seniors. One needs to first differentiate between workshops for professional development after graduation which I believe was the point of article, and workshops attended by UG students because of felt need due to iinadequacy in training and various reason pointed out. My personal opinion is UG should not be entertained in attending such workshops.
    [24/07 11:58 am] Rajashri Naik Sion: 👍🏼👍🏼 i agree
    [24/07 12:16 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: workshop are specialized training in specific areas. Students get certificate of that training. Only Few of us are trained in these specialized workshop. So students are opting for attending these workshops. Of most us get trained in these courses students will not willing to go out and spend money. Because of we are not providing these training at the typical workshop pattern. Students are miss guided. Last 3years, I am teaching all neuro approaches, stroke and spinal cord injury rehab in workshop format with lots patients demo and hands on training during our regular curriculum. This is my first step to stop this draining of students out of education system. If we don’t act soon all these workshops training bodies will take over us.
    [24/07 12:20 pm] Dr Mariya: True. Keep it up Gajanan.
    [24/07 12:28 pm] Jui Madam: 👍🏻👍🏻 agreed
    [24/07 12:37 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: I have done my NDT and Aquatic therapy in may. (Switzerland) certification . Going to Australia in September for MRP course and PNF in Croatia central Europe in November 2016. I am completing all neuro approaches certification. This is my contribution to my institute , education and students. These courses are not sponsored by my college. But I want myself well educated in neuro rehabilitation so I am doing it.
    [24/07 12:54 pm] Veena Krishnanand: Once you become a certified teacher, other teachers will be motivated..
    [24/07 12:55 pm] Veena Krishnanand: Keep it up, Gajanan
    [24/07 12:55 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: No need to name, but some physical therapist are earning their bread and butter by conducting workshops only..These people are not concerned with how much they deliver knowledge and skills to the delegates.. What’s ur opinion on this issue gajanan sir
    [24/07 12:56 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Can a workshop be a model of income for some therapist? Or a way to pass on their skills?
    [24/07 12:57 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: To the budding therapist…
    [24/07 1:08 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Originally the article is aimed at those therapist only . I can’t stop them from taking workshops. But you guide students and stop them from going to their workshops these kind of people will not stand in the competition. “Someone may be selling lot of things but if they don’t have buyers then they go out of market.” This happened to many companies in the world. So I am using same fundamental her. Guide students and tell them which workshop to go and which not. This doesn’t mean stop students from allowing to go to workshops. If we as teachers can’t provide some thing in our institute they will go to others. It is same like … when we don’t find our desirable product in one shop we go to other. This is the thumb rule for our service industry. World is changing fast we need to change faster than it then only we can withstand in competition and emerge as winner’s
    [24/07 1:08 pm] Dr Vimal Telang: Congratulations Gajanan for touching on this very important subject…
    Our interests in attending workshops and conferences is being misused by other professionals especially medical doctors who keep these workshops open for therapists too as we are
    being a big source of filling in their registrations and filling in the crowd and their conference offers and not to mention sometimes only adding cosmetic value…
    We are now becoming more theorists than practitioners…Sorry to say Majority want to become consultants not practitioners…
    Students know theory very well but even simple checking of manual muscle testing on patients is lacking even after passing final year..this is my experience with fresh P.G’s..
    Teachers and education system need to bring in change towards more skill development…

    [24/07 1:10 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: But it’s been observed that the students are forced to attend workshop by colleges or faculties sometimes….What the solution in this case
    [24/07 1:11 pm] Jui Madam: And we as teachers need to guide the students about the workshops clinical utility and credibility of the resource persons.
    [24/07 1:11 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Students are compelled to attend workshop irrespective of their interest…Sometimes 2 year BPT students attend kinesiology taping, pilates workshop
    [24/07 1:13 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Amit I think u know the answers for ur questions. The need is just to act on it.
    [24/07 1:13 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: The remedy is that who so ever is the resource person should fix the eligibility of delegates and be firm on that irrespective of financial gain
    [24/07 1:18 pm] Dr Mariya: At the undergrad level the institute should be made capable to provide all that is required in the syllabus . One cannot send students to workshops saying cannot provide. There is a difference between outsourcing UG training and continuous professional development. It is the ethics of the institute and individual to set this norms.
    [24/07 1:21 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Regarding registration fees for workshop.. I know some of the resource person who charge less than 1000 in government institute like NIRTAR, NIOH.but the same person charges Rs 8000-10000/- in private institute..Why such discrepancies…
    [24/07 1:23 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: where is the ethics?
    [24/07 1:23 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Respected all teachers. I just trying to present fast. No intention to hurt anyone. Please excuse me if I go wrong in some words. Our syllabus is not bad. New syllabus has included everything. But our teachers need to be trained and capable for it. Very few teacher’s attached skilled and specialised workshops. Changing syllabus doesn’t solve it. Problem is with us and we trying to find solution outside.
    [24/07 1:24 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Of professionalism and practice
    [24/07 1:26 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Gajanan sir, this is an iceberg topic…it need to ‘ve discussed..
    [24/07 1:30 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: One more issue. What’s the criteria to conduct workshop..Is it like merely doing the certification from any institute fulfills the eligibility..It’s been observed that some physio are conducting workshop on Neuro for couple of years..suddenly they change to manual therapy..Later their interest arises in ICU management…I think the field of interest changes looking at current trends..
    [24/07 1:32 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: I am not blaming someone. But these are some crucial issue that are not discussed openly..However, everyone is aware about it
    [24/07 1:34 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Amit the resource person doesn’t have all control on recruitment. In spite of Strict Guidelines for recruitment for workshop coordinator changes the norms. In all this process coordinator of the workshop has big role and responsibilities in recruitment and fees structure. If coordinator control all these parameters workshops can be controlled
    [24/07 1:41 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: I am writing my second blog on “My experiments and experiences with workshop in that I will discuss all these issues. If anyone wish write then can add a para in the blog
    [24/07 1:53 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: Agree with Gajanan….. Teachers need to be trained
    [24/07 1:54 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: But at the same time we need to give a critical look at our syllabus.
    [24/07 1:55 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: A UG student is bombarded with all manual therapy techniques.
    [24/07 1:56 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: Of all specialties
    [24/07 1:56 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: Is it really needed?
    [24/07 1:57 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: A third yr student is not expected to talk about treatment but he is supposed to know ALL manual therapy techniques
    [24/07 1:59 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: What about workshop managers ( like event managers ) they get 200 to 500 students per students for getting students for the workshop as a commission , this commission can go put 1000 depending upon the fees of the workshop , Not even managers.
    Those who motivate students they also get commission . This is the biggest point missed out I guess . N who will decide the credibility of the speaker …. Many certification can owned just by paying some money .
    [24/07 1:59 pm] ‪Dr. Rachana Arora‬: Third year is overloaded. So much that their assessment is suffering.
    [24/07 1:59 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: What about taking permission from council before taking workshop
    [24/07 2:00 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: First these malpractices should be taken into account treat all is later
    [24/07 2:04 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Same is the scenario for the conferences
    [24/07 2:04 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Varoon I mentioned financial gain which indirectly talks on commission
    [24/07 2:05 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: No sir u should be direct lot of indirect statements in the profession nw we have straight forward
    [24/07 2:06 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Actually it would not be a correct word to spell.. I agree it’sthe duty of workshop coordinator to scrutinize the delegates..
    [24/07 2:06 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Y not council permission before taking the workshop anywhere in Maharashtra
    [24/07 2:07 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: But ultimately the facilitator in form of a resource person has the right to refuse non eligible delegates.. but their financial interest overrides the ethics
    [24/07 2:08 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Sir m not talking abt students m taking abt resources persons authority to take workshop
    [24/07 2:08 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Students are the innocent ones
    [24/07 2:09 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Fall trap to all these politics n false publicity
    If the resource Preston has such good clinical hand n skill y they run behind academicians to arrange workshop for earning money … What about their clinical practice .
    [24/07 2:10 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Gajanan sir , resource person finalizes the maximum delegates for hands on workshop, as he/she has to make sure that the relevant knowledge is passed on to the delegates
    [24/07 2:11 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Definitely they have the right to opine in those issue….
    [24/07 2:12 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Yeah..that’s my point. Varoon…It’s all business..and sometimes indirectly we promote that…sorry to say this
    [24/07 2:12 pm] Sudeep Kale: 1st I congratulate dr.Gajanan for keeping his views on this topic. The topic it self has many aspects & solution depends upon many factors.
    The commercialization of workshop is taking place in India it’s fact but I think we r little fortunate about it. In Maharashtra our seniors worked hard to upgrade standards of PT education. Which is evident by our syllabus n educational practices. Many other parts of country workshop is pure business. Workshops r conducted by many colleges out side state r mostly bcoz of profession related political n comercial aspects. Below standard resource persons n market driven professional target students n conduct workshop. Market driven policies r spoiling teachers in many colleges in other state. Dr.Varoon mentioned correct thing.
    The business of workshop is more in Our profession it’s fact. This can b controlled by introducing point system for renewation of registration in council. Honable high court has already directed to all councils for same. Like MMC MSDC councils we can introduce point system n Lay down criteria for resource person. N charges , centers for conducting it too. MMC MSDC laid down such criteria. We can addopt it . Many places colleges r forcing to pay amounts more than 10000 /workshop n making it mandatory is absolute wrong practice. However workshops conducted by credible Resource person n organized with Good intentions will surely contribute in updating skills. Thank all for sharing views
    [24/07 2:14 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Resource person always have strict guidelines. Especially if the certificates are coming from their respective institute, association. But manager force them to change it.
    [24/07 2:14 pm] Gajanan Bhalerao: Workshop scenarios are well controlled in Maharashtra but other part of India is going out of control
    [24/07 2:16 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: I think its a time for all of us to look into the past how our ancestors have transmitted their knowledge about ancient medicine by merely writing on leaves without any person interest. They had a noble thought of passing it on to the next generation
    [24/07 2:18 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: While in the modern era, with the globalization , workshop is the only mode to make aware the others about their skills..It’s bitter but truth
    [24/07 2:18 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Rational thinking is needed to change this scenario
    [24/07 2:22 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Where the mind is without the fear, and head is held high” A nice poem by Revindranath Tagore has all the explanation and answers to these issues
    [24/07 2:23 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: @ Dr Amit I never promote any workshop. Thanks
    [24/07 2:23 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Directly or indirectly 😊
    [24/07 2:24 pm] Varoon Jaiswal: Thanks Sudeep sir for taking my point
    [24/07 2:26 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: It’s not about any individual varoon. It’s about the system..pl don’t take it personally…I am not talking about respected teachers in this group..It’s a overall observation around the nation
    [24/07 2:29 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Sudeep sir , it’s a good idea to introduce point system..but I have observed that the medicos just register the workshop as the credit point is required for MMC renewable. They don’t even attend the workshop physically..Just register on first day, sometimes on behalf of them, other person pays their amount.
    [24/07 2:31 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Such things should not happen. Control measures should be formulated for such registrations
    [24/07 2:31 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Yeah gajanan sir. Hence I mentioned that point… It’s the system which promote such malpractice with organising the workshop…Not any individual…
    [24/07 2:46 pm] Sudeep Kale: Previously the workshops on manual therapy was a gr8 fad in state. In our syllabus we have introduced all approaches of Manipulations n neuro. I guess After that the business of manual therapy workshops reduced in state. Now very few ppl do such workshops.
    I thing following things can b probable solutions.
    1. Updating syllabus , teachers training, (university level intervention).
    2. fixing criteria for resource person ,workshop, recognition of training program (council level)
    3. Staying away from wrong practices related to workshop (individual level).
    [24/07 4:35 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: Teacher should upgrade resoning and skill. try to arrange more workshop on assessment and plagiarism.
    [24/07 4:36 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: How much evidence is available for use of manual therapy skills
    [24/07 4:37 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: I have recently been informed about poor evidence for use of NDT alone
    [24/07 4:38 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: Eclectic approach using sound biomechanical principles
    [24/07 4:40 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: and physiological principles
    [24/07 4:51 pm] Dr Suvarna Ganvir: Absolutely agree with Sudeep. Teachers training at university level is a must.
    [24/07 7:48 pm] Vivek Kulkarni: Well said sudeep
    [24/07 9:50 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: University funds workshops Utilise funds as per notification
    [24/07 9:50 pm] Dr Hitoxy Writer: MUHS funded conference too partly
    [24/07 9:54 pm] Dr Vimal Telang: Sudeep👍
    [24/07 9:56 pm] Vivek Kulkarni: Sudeep absolutely must
    [24/07 10:15 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Whenever epidemic occurs like dengue, swine flue, zika virus, muhs conduct a training for medicos…But no such activities being carried out for physical therapist…
    [24/07 10:16 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: Sudeep sir is dragging attention to a vital area…..
    [24/07 10:17 pm] Amit Nagrale latur: 👏👏👏 sudeep sir
    [25/07 9:24 am] Gajanan Bhalerao: Hi all. I had put same blogs link on 15-20groups all over India. But this group had very good discussion and expressions of your opinions. I think only Maharashtra academicians are very aware and inquisitive in nature about their students and growth. No else even bother to give comments on it. Thanks all for your contribution and interest for students welfare.
    [25/07 9:31 am] Sudeep Kale: Wow dats gr8.members of Maharashtra Academic group

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